Monday, February 23, 2015

Fahrenheit 451: fishbowl #1. First hour

Today we'll primarily focus our discussion on the second reading section of Fahrenheit 451 beginning at the page break on 15 & continuing through the page break on 32.  

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50 comments:

  1. What sparked Clarisse's ideas of the world? What made her view everything differently than other people? (General question for anyone to answer)

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  2. Why does Montag get so frustrated when he is told he is not in love by a dandelion? (Page 19)

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  3. Is Montag questioning his marriage?
    p19
    “You’re not in love with anyone”

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    1. I don't think Montag is questioning his marrage, but there isn't any love in the relationship. So much time and energy is eaten up by technology that they never talk and Mildred is in her own world. They are just married because that has been the social norm for a long time.

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  4. Why is Clarice so different from Mildred and other people in their society?

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  5. I think that either she has books herself or someone she knows has books which give her ideas how people lived in the past.

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  6. I believe that Clarisse is so different from everyone else because she has read books in her life.

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    1. But where did she get them ? It seems that books are so scarce, I think it would be extremely hard to get them

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    2. Maybe she isn't reading books but is learning to question how their society works because she says "I sometimes think drivers don't know what grass is, or flowers, because they never see them slowly," p. 6

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  7. I think that Clarisse is different since she has read books and now she now knows somewhat what life used to be like so she is curious to explore more.

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  8. Why doesn't the hound like Montag? (pg,24)
    "It doesn't like me."

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  9. Why did the uncle get arrested for being a pedestrian? "My uncle drove slowly on a highway once. He drove forty miles an hour and got jailed two days." Pg.6

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  10. I think Montag got frustrated when Clarisse said he wasn't in love because he's married to Mildred. Montag argues when the dandelion didn't rub off on him, "I am very much in love!" p20

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  11. Why is Clarisse afraid of people her age? What do you think happened for her friends death? Do you think it was an accident or on purpose? Do you think they could have been forced to do something and they refused to do so and so they got shot and killed?

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  12. Is technology helping or hurting this futuristic America? What is the roll of tech in this book?
    "All of those chemical balances and percentages on all of us here in the house are recorded in the master file downstairs. It would be easy for someone to set up a partial combination on the Hound's ‘memory,’ a touch of amino acids, perhaps. That would account for what the animal did just now. Reacted toward me." p.24

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  13. Should people be afraid of firemen or should they do something about firemen burning down houses for no reason?
    p5
    “So many people are. Afraid of Firemen...”

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    1. I think most people are afraid of the firemen and won't want anything to do with them, but I think eventually people would have enough of them randomly burning down houses and they start an uprising against the firemen.

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    2. I think that people don't care for the firemen burning down the houses cause its what is supposed to happen in society. I don't think people are really afraid of them but don't want to confront them about what they do.

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  14. What do you think other things cost if a television that is $2,000 is one-third of his yearly pay. Page 18 "That's one third of my yearly pay"

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  15. Was Clarisse's uncle someone important, possibly?
    (pg. 28)
    "......Your uncle must be a remarkable man."

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  16. I don't think the people can do anything about their fear of fireman because they're part of the government.

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  17. Do you think Mildred is using the excuse of not remembering as a lie or does she really not remember. "what would I go out and do a silly thing like that for?" (p17)

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    1. This is just a personal theory, but I think they told her she was in the hospital for different reasons, the convinced her of it. So basically, "brain washed" her..

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  18. Why do Firemen burn down houses? What if people are still inside the house? Do they check the house before burning it down or do they just burn it down?

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    1. I think since the firemen are a part of the government, they just go around and burn down a house randomly, without looking to make sure there is nobody inside. They just go around burning down houses with out caring about the safety of the people, if they were in the house or not.

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    2. They burn down the houses because someone has books and so it's like a big punishment to the people inside because they could lose all of their possessions and possibly their lives for committing such a big crime.

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  19. Do you think Montag was scared of the Hound? What might have caused this fear? "Montag stayed upstairs most nights while this went on" (22).

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    1. I think that Montag was scared of the Hound and what could have caused this fear is maybe something that happened in his past when he was younger like maybe a bad encounter with a Hound and that's what could have made him afraid of the Hound.

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  20. Why does Clarisse seem more mature for her age to Montag?
    "...and yet you seem so much older at times. I can't get over it." p. 21

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    1. I think it is just her understanding of the world around her. The way she looks at things around her. She actually thinks about what she id doing and Montag does not expect that to come from some one young.

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  21. Is there a possibility that America will ever turn into this sheep society where technology is more important than human interaction? If there is a possibility, how do you think this will happen? If there isn't, what will stop us from this fate?

    "It's really fun. It'll be even more fun when we can afford to have the fourth wall installed. How long you figure before we save up and get the fourth wall torn out and a wall-TV put in. It's only two thousand dollars." p. 20

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    1. Well, people nowadays even need technology. I know the inner circle mentioned this but for instance, when a situation becomes quiet or awkward then people seem to take out their phone to lighten things up. Also, people choose to do things such as listen to music in the halls rather than see what is going on around them. This isn't necessarily a bad thing but it is a way that people avoid human interaction.

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    2. I definitely believe that America has or will become a sheep society. Even now when ever people feel uncomfortable they always go straight to their phone as a safety measure. If they don't have their phone they will be nervous. Technology will only grow more and so will the addiction.

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  22. Why does Clarisse find so much interest in Montag and why does he let her? “Everyday Clarisse walked him to the corner” pg. 25

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  23. I think that Mildred really does not remember taking the pills because she insisted she didn't remember taking them and she was saying that she would never do that. "I wouldn't do a thing like that. Why would I do a thing like that? p17

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    1. I believe that she didn't want to believe that she did that to herself.

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    2. I think maybe Mildred has like early Alzheimer's which means she could maybe remember certain things and then forgets others.

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  24. Is Montag questioning if what he is doing is right? When he was talking to Clarisse he seemed like he had just been introduced to this new way of life he had never heard of.
    p9
    “He felt his smile slide away”

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    1. I think that before he started talking to Clarisse he just kind of went with the flow. Now since she has said other things, he is starting to question some of the things she has said such as "firemen used put out fires."

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    2. I believe that Montag is questioning everything after he talked to Clarisse. Everything he thought of before is starting to seem false and almost unrealistic.

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  25. I was wondering what other people thought about Montag in the dandelion scene. Do you think the flower just didn't work or do you think Montag is not in love and just denying it? "You're not in love with anyone." (Clarisse) "Yes, I am!"

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    1. I think that Montag really isn't in love and he's using the excuse that the dandelion won't work. "I am very much in love!" (20). I feel like he wouldn't get so defensive about it if he really was in love.

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    2. I think that he is not in love but does not want to accept the fact. He keeps lying to himself to make him believe he is.

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  26. Is Montag finally realizing that "normal" people are really the ones that are crazy?
    p21
    “my wife thirty and yet you seem so much older”

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  27. I think that Clarisse is interested in Montag because he is the only person who actually listens to her and he is the only one who sees if what she says is true. She also just wants a friend and she doesn't want stuff from him. "Because I like you, and I don't want anything from you." p26

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  28. All my comments were posted to the class

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  29. Do you think that Montag is a little crazy for thinking that a 16 almost 17 year old seems much older than she is when she is clearly immature cause she isn't going to school just because they don't talk? I meant its understandable but I personally would still go so I can learn. Do you think that he may like Clarisse? I know that would be weird sense they are different ages but think about it.

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    Are the dogs really made of metal or are the people being lied to?
    p24
    “It’s only copper wire”

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  31. I think Clarisse has been born into a family of lowkey readers and she has been able to formulate her own opinions on life reading some of the books that her and her family probably have stowed away. She acts like a normal teen now but she is considered an outsider

    "You're one of the few who put up with me." p.21

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